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How/Why the Evil Queen became evil (no real spoilers, just the teasy promise that the question will be answered soon):


One thing is clear, the Mayor isn't going to be brought down anytime soon. The long-term arc of the show is about her defeat. But hopefully the background reveals will make her a bit more gray than black and white.

How the TV show Lost influenced OUAT's fairytale world:


"We never thought about Lost or Once really as mythology shows, even though mythology obviously is a part of [both]. They are character shows to us. "

Sounds like they're developing a mythology for the show through both the actual text of fairy tales and their own development of the characters as both fairy tale characters and modern people. Storybrooke is the Island where they are trapped, and the people in it are gradually revealed through non-linear flashbacks.

So far, I trust what they're doing, and where they might go. If it's anything like Lost, it should be a twisty, turny ride.
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Feb. 6th, 2012 04:08 am (UTC)
I love the way the show moves from our world to the fairy tale world so seamlessly.
I think the whole show would benefit from having Regina a little grayer, because to me the best villains are the ones who have convinced themselves that they're really the good guys.
Feb. 6th, 2012 04:17 am (UTC)
because to me the best villains are the ones who have convinced themselves that they're really the good guys.

Yes, that's exactly what they need to do. So I am hoping to see more about her.

Edited at 2012-02-06 04:18 am (UTC)
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Feb. 6th, 2012 01:46 pm (UTC)
Season 4 of Merlin, I can say without being much spoilery, since it's obvious by now, is Arthur's season, narratively, about his coming into his own as a king. Morgana must also learn to stand alone without her mentor (Morgause).

Right now, OUAT is establishing the characters, and that sort of makes it necessary to establish the Mayor/Queen as the villain, so that's clear (if it were not already clear by our knowledge of fairy tale tropes), before they muddy the waters a bit. One thing that was definitely true of Lost: the "bad guys", like Ben and Widmore were gray as hell.

I think the Mayor/Queen's (I really need to learn her name) one shade of gray, so far, is her love for Henry. I do think in her own misguided way, she loves him, and it's no coincidence the boy bears her father's name, because he's the one person in the Fairy Tale world she actually loved, even though ultimately, she sacrificed him to gain something she valued more.
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Feb. 6th, 2012 05:36 pm (UTC)
Yes, and the actress who played Claire on Lost is going to be making a cameo soon (next week?).

I think Amy Acker's latest TV appearance will be on Grimm.
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Feb. 6th, 2012 06:01 pm (UTC)
I don't want plot spoilers, but casting spoilers don't particularly bug me. I am not as mental about them as I was in the case of BtVS/AtS.

In the case of the Secret Circle, I was actually pleased when I heard it.
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Feb. 6th, 2012 08:10 pm (UTC)
See, I would not have wanted the father casting spoiler on secret circle before I saw the episode where they revealed he was still alive. Afterwards, though, the spoiler was welcome because it confirmed the reveal wasn't a fake-out.

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Feb. 6th, 2012 10:41 pm (UTC)
I can't imagine shows like AtS or BtVS changing their minds very often, given the tightness of production schedules. Daytime soaps have the luxury of changing story lines as the actors are stepping in front of the camera (did you ever see the movie "Soap Dish"?).

Arcy dramas like AtS and BtVS would fall apart if they did stuff like that.
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Feb. 6th, 2012 11:13 pm (UTC)
Oh, I love it, too, but usually not while the show is going on, as that sort of messes with my suspension of disbelief thing. But later, on the DVD extras, or in books, magazine articles, long after the fact? Eat it for breakfast.
Feb. 6th, 2012 11:12 pm (UTC)
None of those sound like last, last minute changes except the Lindsey Crouch thing. More like changes in the early planning of seasonal arcs, or casting of episodes before filming.
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Feb. 7th, 2012 01:55 am (UTC)
Good Lord, no, I knew about the Julie Benz bail in Season 2 of AtS. Season 3 made up for Pylea for me, which was Lame-o.

Really glad they didn't do the "friend of yours goes evil" trope *again* with Xander. That was effective the first time, tedious the second time, and after that, Get A New Theme.

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Feb. 7th, 2012 02:47 am (UTC)
Angel/Angelus was chilling and effective. But Cordelia, Willow, Fred....

C'mon, Joss, do you have Friendship Issues?
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