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Ah, fandom divided

I am finding the almost 50-50 split between the "separately!" and "together!" camps in The Cultural Catch-Up thread amusing, reassuring, and well, nostalgia-inducing. The issue at hand is whether the blogger taking his Buffyverse journey should watch all of Buffy through season 7 before starting in on Angel ("reassuring" because I thought for sure it'd be overwhelmingly "separately" given the opinions expressed on the issue in the blog up until now).

Personally, I fall so firmly into the "together!" category I am frothing at the mouth I felt compelled to post in his blog for the first time *and* I am forcing the Sculptor to watch the two shows together by making her a color-coded schedule. She is in mid-season 4/season 1 right now (episodes 11). I suppose part of my reason for being so anal with her is those confusing DVDs lead her to watch Earshot before Enemies during season 3, which is just...no.

As a story-teller, I believe the linear flow of a narrative and character journeys (::cough::Faith::cough::) is kinda sacred, and not just something to wave off casually.

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butterfly
Jun. 4th, 2010 10:11 pm (UTC)
But how can people want to watch them separately? The story arcs are linked - yes, sometimes casually, but sometimes more importantly. I might need to go over there to see what the reasoning of the 'separately' people might be.
masqthephlsphr
Jun. 4th, 2010 10:15 pm (UTC)
Go! Go! Go!
cactuswatcher
Jun. 4th, 2010 10:48 pm (UTC)
Looks like most of those who recommend watching them separately, did so to begin with.

Does Faith's reappearance and behavior in season 7 Buffy make any sense at all, if you don't know what happened after "This Year's Girl" and "Who Are You" during "Five by Five" and "Sanctuary" over on Angel?
masqthephlsphr
Jun. 4th, 2010 10:50 pm (UTC)
Not to mention Faith's actual rise to heroism in Season 4 of AtS.
spiletta42
Jun. 5th, 2010 02:13 am (UTC)
I just love that your schedule is color coded. :) I didn't have access to season one of Angel the first time I saw Buffy season 4, and I was not a happy camper. AtS was the first dvd set I ever bought as a result.
masqthephlsphr
Jun. 5th, 2010 02:19 am (UTC)
Mostly to just neatly differentiate BtVS from Angel. There are labels that differentiate them, of course, but my friend is more color-oriented than she is word-oriented.
atpo_onm
Jun. 5th, 2010 03:23 am (UTC)
I would venture that one could watch Angel without watching BtVS and you'd be OK, but certainly not the reverse. The best overall compromise for the blogger might be to simply watch those eps of Angel that figure diretly into the BtVS arc, and not bother with the rest of Angel for now. There were, after all, only a few (albeit critical to BtVS) crossover points on the two series.
masqthephlsphr
Jun. 5th, 2010 12:58 pm (UTC)
Oooh, that was the option people were almost unanimously against. They thought it would seriously short-change the Angel arcs that were part of those episodes, as well as make the rest of the Angel episode too incomprehensible.
selenak
Jun. 5th, 2010 05:24 am (UTC)
Definitely in the "Together!!!!" category here. I always pity the people who watch Fool for Love but not Darla, and that's just a minor example; as has been said, the entire Faith arc makes no sense apart.
masqthephlsphr
Jun. 5th, 2010 01:05 pm (UTC)
Oof, against my argument that those two episodes were *made* for each other, people are arguing the "tone changes" between the two shows makes watching the episodes together "jarring" and "unnecessary for them to make sense."
selenak
Jun. 6th, 2010 04:28 am (UTC)
....

Trivia side note: I remember when it was first broadcast, people at the Cross & Stakes were busy posting how Angel being in China in 1900 was clearly a continuity mistake because he was supposed to have the soul back then, until Darla had finished broadcasting.:)
masqthephlsphr
Jun. 6th, 2010 12:57 pm (UTC)
I had forgotten about that, but now that you mention it, I remember it in fandom in general at the time.
midnightsjane
Jun. 5th, 2010 06:09 am (UTC)
As noted above, it would be hard to figure out Faith's arc by simply watching Buffy alone. I'm for sure in the "Together!" camp.
masqthephlsphr
Jun. 5th, 2010 01:10 pm (UTC)
Well, I'm a huge Faith fan (obviously), but I get the feeling the blogger Myles is a bit as well. I wish there was a way to tell him the "character arc in question" everyone is talking about is hers.
lakrids404
Jun. 5th, 2010 10:57 am (UTC)
Together of course. The other is some weird kind of troll logic!!

masqthephlsphr
Jun. 5th, 2010 01:09 pm (UTC)
Well, it does seem to be the logic of people who watched them the first time through separately. They don't feel like they missed anything. But how would they know? Even if they went back and watched them concurrently, their memories of the first time through would make the experience different than watching them for the first time ever concurrently.
dherblay
Jun. 5th, 2010 10:55 pm (UTC)
I want to be a pain in the ass. Here goes: Together, for the most part, through the end of season five/two (though don't alternate Pylea arc with Glory endgame; watch those last four episodes separately). Then watch separately up until Faith reappears. Then dance around the necklace issue -- do what we did, and watch it first appear on Angel after he'd given it to Buffy.

(Or, hell, just stop watching Buffy at about Tabula Rasa. I've been traveling and I haven't slept and I feel like Masq needs a flame war in her journal. Ok, here's red meat: stop watching Buffy at about All The Way.)
masqthephlsphr
Jun. 6th, 2010 12:48 am (UTC)
Can't say I disagree with you about nixing Buffy after Tabula Rasa, d00d.
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